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> It cuts both ways: Users aren't entitled to free work, and developers aren't entitled to their work being well-regarded. Giving software away for free has never meant that people can't point out its problems.

While true, this statement is also useless. On a meta level, what you're essentially saying is that users' rights to feel resentful, is more valuable than achieving an outcome.



> While true, this statement is also useless. On a meta level, what you're essentially saying is that users' rights to feel resentful, is more valuable than achieving an outcome.

It's more useful than calling X users "whiners" while ignoring their complaints. And no, I'm pointing out that the users are resentful because they're being pushed to an outcome that's worse and therefore not desirable to achieve.


You miss the point. See my reply here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42870194


Sometimes that outcome is not the outcome that those users want. For example I'd stay on X11 forever because none of its problems are relevant to me.

The only relevant problem with X11 to me is that all of its developers are stopping to work on it and it won't run on any new hardware soon (and probably on old hardware too.)


You both miss the point completely. What I mean is that just by being resentful, you don't achieve the outcome that you want to achieve (not the outcome that they want to achieve).

The only way to achieve the outcome you want, is for someone to do the work. They're not going to do it. If you'd rather keep being resentful rather than do the work towards your own claimed desired outcome, then apparently you don't really value the outcome you so claim to desire; you value being resentful more.




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